Showing posts with label HR 2454. Show all posts
Showing posts with label HR 2454. Show all posts
Thursday, July 2, 2009
Monday, June 29, 2009
H.R. 2454 CONTINUED
It certainly was a long weekend since the slam dunk vote by the House on Friday with 8 Republican being the spoilers of our Republic. I gave this time to not only collect my thoughts on this but to also find out as much about why this bill passed so quickly.
I am not an expert of how the House and Senate go through their proceedings so I really do not understand how something comes out of Committee, add 300 hundred pages at 3 am, forced on to the floor to be voted leaving no time for the Congressmen to even review the bill. Several Congressmen requested the bill from the House Speaker and were refused right on the House floor. Why and how could anyone put up with this? Then there were reports that the bill was not finalized until 2 July at which point votes could be changed but somehow that was changed.
There is more here to this bill then it's title, American Clean Energy and Security Act. Here are some of what others are saying about this bill.
"The Cap and Trade Bill HR 2454 was voted on last Friday. Proponents claim this bill will help the environment, but what it really does is put another nail in the economy’s coffin. The idea is to establish a national level of carbon dioxide emissions, and sell pollution permits to industry as the Catholic Church used to sell indulgences to sinners. HR 2454 also gives federal bureaucrats new power to regulate a wide variety of household appliances, such as light bulbs and refrigerators, and further distorts the market by providing more of your tax money to auto companies." Ron Paul
"Despite heated objections by some Republicans, the unread 1,200-page Waxman-Markey climate bill was passed 219-212 in the House on Friday." Aaron Dykes
"“We’re disappointed we can’t support the bill,” says Nick Berning, a spokesman for Friends of the Earth. “There just was not enough in it to reduce pollution while billions were given to big oil, dirty coal.”
This misnomer bill is not only going to impose more taxes for Americans, it promises rebates for the poorer Americans and that is all that is being said. But if you look at the actual figures you will see a rebate of less then $300 yet the bill promises to increase energy cost by about $3000 per family. It blows my mind to think that anyone with any sort of understanding of math would see that increasing cost per American of $3000 a year, creating a situation where people will lose their jobs and then giving them a 10% back as a rebate is not helping anyone.
My biggest problem is the fact that the States are going to have to give up more and more power to the Fed in order to put this bill in place. Between the regulations on remodeling we will have new requirements for new houses and buildings that will increase the cost of building. That on top of what I am calling the Green Police and their warrantless inspections of our homes to make sure that we doing what the Governments requires from us we are being usurped by the Fed. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM, THIS IS RUSSIA ON STEROIDS. States and local governments are going to be told what to do by the Government which is the absolute opposite of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We have sovereignty, the right to govern ourselves and not to have our lives micromanaged by the Federal government.
With this bill and then the National Health Care, we as the people are going to loose more and more power to be able to run this country. As an aside, I read an article about the 17th Amendment from 1913, which was the same year that the Amendment for income tax was put in place. Back in the day, our Senators were voted in to place by the States government. The voices of our States government put our Federal Senators in to power. This was switched by the 17th Amendment where the Senators were voted in by the populace of the State meaning that the populace had more control but the government of the State had less. This knocked out the balance of power in the Legislative body of the government by taking away the States voices as well. The House was set up to be the most powerful arm of the Legislative branch. The House is more of the voice of the American people because there are more reps based on population. Since the 17th Amendment, you can trace back to the now quick demise of the country. With the way it was, when we had a situation like we have now with HR 2454, the States would have a real voice in the vote of the Senate when this type of bill is turned over to them for a vote. States are the real power of this country, hence, United States of America. These are the States united, each having a voice in the Federal government in order to keep a balance there with their reps. With this gone and the Senate is more of a rogue branch now, working almost as the House does which takes away a checks and balance in this branch. The only good thing is that I read an article that said that this bill will have a hard time making it through the Senate...lets hope! Sphere: Related Content
I am not an expert of how the House and Senate go through their proceedings so I really do not understand how something comes out of Committee, add 300 hundred pages at 3 am, forced on to the floor to be voted leaving no time for the Congressmen to even review the bill. Several Congressmen requested the bill from the House Speaker and were refused right on the House floor. Why and how could anyone put up with this? Then there were reports that the bill was not finalized until 2 July at which point votes could be changed but somehow that was changed.
There is more here to this bill then it's title, American Clean Energy and Security Act. Here are some of what others are saying about this bill.
"The Cap and Trade Bill HR 2454 was voted on last Friday. Proponents claim this bill will help the environment, but what it really does is put another nail in the economy’s coffin. The idea is to establish a national level of carbon dioxide emissions, and sell pollution permits to industry as the Catholic Church used to sell indulgences to sinners. HR 2454 also gives federal bureaucrats new power to regulate a wide variety of household appliances, such as light bulbs and refrigerators, and further distorts the market by providing more of your tax money to auto companies." Ron Paul
"Despite heated objections by some Republicans, the unread 1,200-page Waxman-Markey climate bill was passed 219-212 in the House on Friday." Aaron Dykes
"“We’re disappointed we can’t support the bill,” says Nick Berning, a spokesman for Friends of the Earth. “There just was not enough in it to reduce pollution while billions were given to big oil, dirty coal.”
This misnomer bill is not only going to impose more taxes for Americans, it promises rebates for the poorer Americans and that is all that is being said. But if you look at the actual figures you will see a rebate of less then $300 yet the bill promises to increase energy cost by about $3000 per family. It blows my mind to think that anyone with any sort of understanding of math would see that increasing cost per American of $3000 a year, creating a situation where people will lose their jobs and then giving them a 10% back as a rebate is not helping anyone.
My biggest problem is the fact that the States are going to have to give up more and more power to the Fed in order to put this bill in place. Between the regulations on remodeling we will have new requirements for new houses and buildings that will increase the cost of building. That on top of what I am calling the Green Police and their warrantless inspections of our homes to make sure that we doing what the Governments requires from us we are being usurped by the Fed. THIS IS NOT FREEDOM, THIS IS RUSSIA ON STEROIDS. States and local governments are going to be told what to do by the Government which is the absolute opposite of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We have sovereignty, the right to govern ourselves and not to have our lives micromanaged by the Federal government.
With this bill and then the National Health Care, we as the people are going to loose more and more power to be able to run this country. As an aside, I read an article about the 17th Amendment from 1913, which was the same year that the Amendment for income tax was put in place. Back in the day, our Senators were voted in to place by the States government. The voices of our States government put our Federal Senators in to power. This was switched by the 17th Amendment where the Senators were voted in by the populace of the State meaning that the populace had more control but the government of the State had less. This knocked out the balance of power in the Legislative body of the government by taking away the States voices as well. The House was set up to be the most powerful arm of the Legislative branch. The House is more of the voice of the American people because there are more reps based on population. Since the 17th Amendment, you can trace back to the now quick demise of the country. With the way it was, when we had a situation like we have now with HR 2454, the States would have a real voice in the vote of the Senate when this type of bill is turned over to them for a vote. States are the real power of this country, hence, United States of America. These are the States united, each having a voice in the Federal government in order to keep a balance there with their reps. With this gone and the Senate is more of a rogue branch now, working almost as the House does which takes away a checks and balance in this branch. The only good thing is that I read an article that said that this bill will have a hard time making it through the Senate...lets hope! Sphere: Related Content
Friday, June 26, 2009
H.R.2454
I find myself spending a bit too much time on the Global Warming, Climate Change situation that we have going on right now. The reason behind this is simple from day one, 20 years ago, I thought that this was some sort of scam. How arrogant was our scientific community to say that our planet is warming up like never before because there are holes in the Ozone. That on top of the fact that 7 years ago I was being told as a kid that we were going in to a new Ice Age. Well that was 20 years ago, now were are putting too much carbon in the atmosphere and increasing the temperature of the planet and ice caps are melting and the water level will rise and flood NYC in 100 years. Yet the facts are that the temperature is going down and that is because the sun is not as hot as it was 2 years ago.
Well the ball has dropped and the real reason for the scare has come to light. HR 2454 Americas Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 is the solution. Behind the fluff you will find an increase of taxes, plain and simple.
Here is the record of a speech made on the floor against H.R.2454 on 23 June 2009:
Well the ball has dropped and the real reason for the scare has come to light. HR 2454 Americas Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 is the solution. Behind the fluff you will find an increase of taxes, plain and simple.
Here is the record of a speech made on the floor against H.R.2454 on 23 June 2009:
Rep. Jerry Moran [R-KS1]: 
On June 12th of this month, the Committee on Agriculture, on which I serve, held a 7-hour hearing to review this bill. We quickly learned that there is little solid economic analysis on how this legislation will affect our economy. Preliminary evidence makes it clear it will increase the cost of energy and, with it, the cost of everything we use in our lives on a daily basis.
We do know that the Congressional Budget Office has said this bill will raise government revenue by $846 billion over the next 10 years. In everyday terms, that means a huge tax increase. $846 billion, however, is just the beginning.
H.R. 2454 is permanent, and after the 10-year period analyzed by the CBO, free carbon allowances are phased out, auctioned carbon allowances are phased in, and total allowances are reduced. This means that future generations will be forced to pay much more than that indicated in the initial 10-year budget estimate.
Although billed as cap-and-trade, in reality Waxman-Markey is a cap-and-tax bill. Instead of government directly levying a tax, this legislation disguises that tax as a carbon allowance auction that subsequently requires electrical generation companies, petroleum, and other biofuel refiners, manufacturers, and others to collect the tax through increased costs.
The consequences go far beyond the price and our ability to turn on the lights in rural America. Kansans, who must always travel great distances to work, to school, and to receive their medical care, will pay disproportionately compared to those who have shorter distances to travel and can use public transportation.
Some had hope that agriculture and rural America would actually benefit, somehow be made whole under this legislation. Under Waxman-Markey, this clearly is not the case.
Despite great potential for agriculture to sequester carbon, agriculture is not mentioned once in the section that defines offsets. Instead, H.R. 2454 directs the EPA to define the world of carbon offsets. This will lead to few benefits for farmers and ranchers and will allow the EPA to further intrude upon our farms.
EPA has consistently made harmful decisions that fail the test of common sense. Unless agricultural offsets are expressly defined and sole authority is given to the Department of Agriculture, farmers will never see benefits from this legislation.
But even if those offsets are defined and USDA is given that authority, it is difficult to see how agriculture will overcome the increased cost of inputs caused by this cap-and-tax system. In the best case scenario under Waxman-Markey, a farmer could mitigate 10 to 50 percent of the cost of the legislation. In the worst case scenario, farmers and ranchers could find themselves unable to access the carbon offset market at all and be forced to bear the full cost of this legislation. Either way, any hope for profitability in agriculture is bleak.
I am especially concerned about the livestock sector. Unlike crop farmers, ranch operations and feed yards have few opportunities to accumulate carbon - offsets.
Much emphasis has been placed upon our Nation's economic recovery since the market collapse of last fall. This bill is almost certain to destroy any chance of economic recovery if enacted in its current form.
Congress should be allowed to obtain sound technical and economic analysis and address this legislation's many, many, many flaws. If further legislative debate is denied, then we must do what common sense demands and defeat this bill. Congress rarely gets things right when we have ample time to properly consider policy changes, but it has never made good decisions when rushed by arbitrary timetables.
Congress should abandon the current pace set by the Speaker of the House. Otherwise, Members of Congress will have abdicated their responsibilities and farmers and ranchers, rural America, and in fact, the entire country will suffer the consequences.
Please contact your Congressman and Senators and tell them "no" to this bill. Your voice is actually very important to them and they need to hear from you, it is your responsibility as an American Citizen! Sphere: Related Content
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